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Offline Al

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Micro-freeze/Stutter
« on: Monday, 18 Jan 2010, 10:52:07 »
I’ve been having a few issues in raids recently where my game freezes for fractions of a second. It doesn’t sound like much but is affecting the dps gain of my 2*t10 bonus quite significantly, I think I’m actually losing around 5-10 % dps. The freeze is usually occurring when I’ve just cast an Arcane Blast and then cast hasted Arcane Missiles, although it does occasionally happen when casting back to back Arcane Blasts but as these aren’t channelled it isn’t so much of an issue. I think a proc or crit or both usually occur during this time too (Arcane Empowerment, Clear Casting, Arcane Potentcy, Ring/Trinket proc).

Until last night I thought it was just having a PC that isn’t that great. I was tweaking my UI whilst on target dummies in Undercity and the same issue was occurring even though I was sitting at 60 fps. So I’ve figured that it is either addon or combat log related.

Has anyone else ever had (and hopefully resolved) a similar issue? Does anyone know of a likely cause? Is there anything I can use to track down the issue easily?

Would have posted this in the tech support forums on wow, but I know my responses would either by “delete WTF, Interface and Cache folders” or “Your PC spec isn’t up to scratch what do you expect?”. Deleting wtf cache and interface folders is going to be my last resort and if you guys don’t have any other ideas I guess it’ll be turning off all addons and turning them on one at a time to find the culprit/s. I’ve read somewhere that simply disabling an addon isn’t enough and you should remove it completely including the saved variables part, is that right or just BS?
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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #1 on: Monday, 18 Jan 2010, 11:44:28 »
Try to simply rename the wtf and interface folders first (into wtfBackup or something), just to confirm/dismiss if it'll solve it.

If zero addons-mode does solve it, I guess turning them all on one-by-one is the way to proceed.
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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #2 on: Monday, 18 Jan 2010, 23:39:30 »
Doesn't seem to be addon related after all which is a shame :( thought it was possible that it may be tiny lag spikes of some sort but latency appears stable. Out of ideas now
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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 00:15:57 »
What are the settings for multisampling (you can check it via ingame video options)?

If it's higher than 24-bit color 24-bit depth 1x multisample, try to lower it to that value.

Another cause might be running programs while playing wow (wow fps is mainly cpu based) or a fragmented disk (although that doesn't seem very likely to me).


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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 10:13:33 »
I've fragmented my disk and wow, i play on 16bit with 1x multisampling and turned off all not need programmes whilst playing.

The issue I have is weird it presents like little lag spikes where the cast is delayed and then catches up towards the end of the cast, I just have a feeling that it isn't lag though as it mainly occurs when i get procs/crits. If i didn't use channeled spells I don't think there would be an issue because of the catch up. Clipping arcane missiles is bad bad bad though !!!!!!

It's more annoying than anything else, it's not like the game is unplayable. My epeen is probably taking a bigger hit than anything else as I'm losing that bit of dps to be really competitive!
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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 16:17:36 »
Blizzard have confirmed that 16 bit multisampling can cause problems (not sure if the freezes are one of them). They advise to play on 24 bit 1x as lowest setting.

See 2nd post in this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856201674&sid=1

but im not sure if this will fix your problem, and im also out of ideas.  :(

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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 16:39:58 »
Hm, in my experience these kind of stuttery things are usually created by addons. I'd try disabling all of them first to see if they are the culprit.
Also you can try enabling LUA error reporting, sometimes these happen when an addon starts to throw zillions of errors.

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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 16:48:58 »
Hello, yes, I spy on your forums, sue me.

I just noticed this and I have exactly the same thing. I know you say it isn't lag, and if you deem it so I am in no way debating that. BUT! Still,  you never know what might work, and I guess you want to try everything that could possibly help.

So yeah, same issue here, pretty much exactly, on my priest it doesn't seem to matter when and where, on my mage I have it on procs just like you do, mostly when heroism is cast or any other haste sort of thing.

I use vista (shadap I'm trying to help, I don't need your judgement :( ) and I use vista anti-lag which always runs in the background and solves all my problems. If I forget to turn it on, I will notice as soon as I pop arcane power :)

The same is available for xp, although I do not know where or anything, since I don't use xp (shadap I'm trying to help, I don't need your judgement :( ).

Any way, this is the link for the anti-lag thing http://vista-anti-lag.software.informer.com/

Should you have vista that is.

Sorry if this is not helpful AT ALL, I am a full-on computer noob, so I know nothing, but I try!

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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 16:57:34 »
Hm, in my experience these kind of stuttery things are usually created by addons. I'd try disabling all of them first to see if they are the culprit.
Also you can try enabling LUA error reporting, sometimes these happen when an addon starts to throw zillions of errors.

Already tried addons and lua reporting, no dice :(

Blizzard have confirmed that 16 bit multisampling can cause problems (not sure if the freezes are one of them). They advise to play on 24 bit 1x as lowest setting.

See 2nd post in this thread: http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=2856201674&sid=1

but im not sure if this will fix your problem, and im also out of ideas.  :(

Ohhh didn't know that will try 24 bit mode, affraid of losing valuable frame rate though

Hello, yes, I spy on your forums, sue me.

I just noticed this and I have exactly the same thing. I know you say it isn't lag, and if you deem it so I am in no way debating that. BUT! Still,  you never know what might work, and I guess you want to try everything that could possibly help.

So yeah, same issue here, pretty much exactly, on my priest it doesn't seem to matter when and where, on my mage I have it on procs just like you do, mostly when heroism is cast or any other haste sort of thing.

I use vista (shadap I'm trying to help, I don't need your judgement :( ) and I use vista anti-lag which always runs in the background and solves all my problems. If I forget to turn it on, I will notice as soon as I pop arcane power :)

The same is available for xp, although I do not know where or anything, since I don't use xp (shadap I'm trying to help, I don't need your judgement :( ).

Any way, this is the link for the anti-lag thing http://vista-anti-lag.software.informer.com/

Should you have vista that is.

Sorry if this is not helpful AT ALL, I am a full-on computer noob, so I know nothing, but I try!

Using vista I'll give this a try tonight, thanks Saranini
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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 16:58:30 »
Be a bit more confident sara :D doesnt fit your personality beeing this held back and shy ^_^
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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 17:07:40 »
I'm using Vista too (although on a pretty powerful comp), no problems here at all even if I forget about shutting down porn downloads the development environment.

To check if it is vidcard/CPU/mem related problem, use minimal visual settings, turn off sound, lowest resolution. I'd be surprised if that would be the case as otherwise the problems would be totally independent of your T10x2 bonus proccing, as that is i in the game logic layer of code, node the display layer.
Unless the tier proc causes spectacular fireworks all around the screen ofc. :)
« Last Edit: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 17:11:14 by Rowain »

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Re: Micro-freeze/Stutter
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 17:12:05 »
Al, also try running without recount tonight, it is known to cause problems. And if your epeen needs a boost i can always link the meters  ;D


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no problems here at all even if I forget about shutting down porn downloads the development environment.

Now i think about it, stop visiting redtube on raidnights Al (or any of the other sites Scoob has send you links for)  :P
« Last Edit: Tuesday, 19 Jan 2010, 17:23:46 by Monascha »