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Heffa

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HealBot
« on: Saturday, 07 Apr 2007, 02:19:57 »
I'm trying out the healbot addon, which Rhae recommended to me. It seems handy, although I haven't really figured out to use it. If anyone knows more about it, then please whisper me ingame and advise me!


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Re: HealBot
« Reply #1 on: Saturday, 07 Apr 2007, 03:38:39 »
I use that one, very good for any class with healing/buffing duties. For pallys you can set which blessing to cast on what class.

Nice set-up with mouse clicks too, so I have small heal (left click), cleanse (shift left-click), big heal (right click), and bless of freedom (middle click)

Natanya

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, 11 Apr 2007, 23:51:09 »
Sounds useful, except i have grown used to using 1-12 and F1-F12 for all that stuff. My mouse buttons are all bound to running, mounting and such. Saves me time :)

Heffa

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #3 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 00:18:20 »
I've been finding this pretty useful recently, especially because of the automatic downranking of spells it does for me with the mouse clicks. The buff notifying thing is also useful, as is the whole not having to click on people in the standard party thing.

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #4 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 08:58:14 »
I will try it when I get back to healing. On concern of mine is that I do not use the mouse to cast spells, I dont click any action-bar button in combat either. I usually use it for turning, auto-running and party member targetting. I also have more options that can fit the mouse (modifiers help though): Greater Heal, Flash Heal, Renew, Prayer of Mending, Dispel, Abolish Disease, Shield.

The debuff notification sounds great though, with X-Perl raid member debuff icons are too small.

Heffa

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #5 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 12:06:39 »
The way it seems to be set up for me at the moment (although I haven't done to much and need to chat to Rhae to get it set up properly) is that there aren't any spells specifically set to my mouse button at the moment, but it seems to decide which spell is best for someone, and then sets it to a mouse button automatically. So when I scroll over Gruff's name, it tells me how much health he has, and comes up with a recommendation and I can click to use that. It feels slightly easy-mode, so I don't use it all the time, but it's handy for smaller heals, where it will automatically downrank for me. Also, once buffs have worn out, it automatically sets it so that I can do a mouseclick to recast the buffs, which is particularly handy for thorns, since that's only 10 minutes.

It's also got a thing where I can tell it to notify the party when I'm casting specific things (currently Rebirth), which is useful although I know you can do that in other ways.

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #6 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 13:26:44 »
I think the recommendations can be turned off, in the Tips section - I do :)

I also think that for normal play, EZMode is a bit poor :D However, for raids, where mana-management is so important, Blizz standard UI isn't good enough. Think if it this way, your character would know what spell and level to use because they could see how another character was suffering - or in need of a rapid heal.

Word of warning, I noticed a post by Blizz on the US forums about Arena. I really don't know much about these, but in the regional finals etc, Blizz will disable the players' ability to use Mods - in order to make it fair for everyone. There are legal reasons too, but too dull to go into now :D Basically, you should be able to play your class well, these mods just help you to enjoy the game more (i.e. healers don't have to spend the entire 4hrs of a raid looking at a small section of their screen).

Heffa

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #7 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 13:50:22 »
Indeed, I don't generally use the recommendations in combat, largely because I find it easier to pay attention myself and make my own decisions (if something goes wrong, I'd rather it was down to me than down to an addon). It is useful though in parties when people are out of combat and only need a tiny heal, and I can't be bothered to search through my spell book and find the best rank of rejuvenation to use :) - I only have some downranked spells easily available.

The rest of the time it recommends spells that I'd automatically use anyway (lifebloom and full rank regrowth) so I find it more useful then to be able to use it's targeting system to cast the spell that I would have cast anyway, as it's quicker. Especially in combat, I don't have that many options in ToL form, so the recommendations are a bit pointless then anyway.

Of course, it can't offer recommendations as to when to resurrect someone, use various buffs (innervate) or to switch out of ToL and use my other healing abilities. Since these tend to be the harder decisions (especially with combat res, although I tend to consult with Gruff on that one) it doesn't help much there :).

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #8 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 14:41:41 »
it seems to decide which spell is best for someone, and then sets it to a mouse button automatically.

Its not for me then. This would make you a real "healbot", whereas I do think that healing can be fun or at least interesting. Moreover I have doubts about its ability to correctly determine the spell that is the best. For example its not easy to determine when and on who to cast Prayer of Mending. I'm sure it would recommend flash heal instead.

Heffa

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #9 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 14:48:21 »
Edit: I'm really not explaining myself very well in this discussion.

I haven't actually set it up properly yet, because I find add-ons rather confusing and need some time to go through the whole thing properly for me.

Currently, I have it so that it tells me when I need to rebuff Thorns, which is very useful.

I also find it easier to keep an eye on people's health bars from using it, as well as the fact that it provides what I find to be a better targeting system, as I dislike the Blizzard party targeting.

I would set it up so that I had specific spells set to each mouse button but as I do have difficulty in telling my left from my right, which is just a rather embarrassing quirk, this would actually really confuse me and probably lead to lots of hideous mistakes.

As I'm normally healing in Tree of Life form, I only have 3 heal spells that the addon has picked up on, which is Regrowth, Lifebloom and Rejuvenation. Left to myself, most of the time, I use the max rank of Regrowth (and occasionally a downranked one in order to provide an extra HoT) and Lifebloom. These are the only two spells that the addon ever recommends, so as soon as people start taking any damage, those two spells are automatically set to my left mouse button and middle mouse button. It thus means that I avoid faffing around with targeting and can just use my mouse, and luckily the addon makes it clearer exactly which mouse button to use.

The rest of time, it provides me with no recommendations as my other abilities are talented, and/or things that I *have* to decide for myself.

However, occasionally when there's no battle going on, but someone still needs a tiny heal, it recommends a downranked version of Rejuvenation for me to use and sets it up automatically for me. This is useful, as normally in these occasions, I either don't heal, or overheal.

Essentially, I'm using it as an easier targeting system. I wouldn't easymode heal, primarily because it's actually something I really enjoy, and also because I get really confused in instances and couldn't be bothered to look at the addon the whole time, and would rather trust myself to decide what to do and make my own horrible mistakes.

This is why I'm not really a fan of addons generally...
« Last Edit: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 15:10:22 by Heffa »

Aeche

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #10 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 15:43:19 »

I tried alot of the add ons when I became a full time healer, the only ones that I feel really comfortable with are Grid and Clique - they seem to make a good combination and I've not let anyone die from the "delay" in information that some of these add ons seem to have.

My 2 cents  :)

aeche

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #11 on: Thursday, 12 Apr 2007, 16:02:09 »
it seems to decide which spell is best for someone, and then sets it to a mouse button automatically.

Its not for me then. This would make you a real "healbot", whereas I do think that healing can be fun or at least interesting. Moreover I have doubts about its ability to correctly determine the spell that is the best. For example its not easy to determine when and on who to cast Prayer of Mending. I'm sure it would recommend flash heal instead.

You can turn that bit off, which is what I do as even 'fast' add-ons can't keep up with you making the right choice of spell.

Rhae

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 00:39:21 »
this addon is actually really usefull, I have all recomendation stuff disabled, but apart form excellent buffing and debuffing, you can easily set any spels you use for healing for right, left and middle mouse buttons - in variations for normal click, shift click and ctrl click and so on...

for example my set up is:
left click - renew
right click - greater heal
shift left click - heal
shift right click - power word: shield
ctrl left click - dispell magic
ctrl right click - flash heal

i do not use middle button so thats kinda it... its very usefull in crowd so you can easily see who needs help and you can one click heal diretly from that interface withouth need to target that person etc... very handy...

feel free to chat online Heff (or anyone else) if you need any help with set up of this mod...

Heffa

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday, 25 Apr 2007, 11:20:00 »
I think I've got it set-up now :) The recommendations are only available out of combat anyway (can't believe I didn't notice that before) and the rest of time it's set up as I want it. It's still most useful for rebuffing and slightly quicker healing, although I've found that I tend to not use it much in instances, but have been using it all the time in PvP where it's a godsend for healing. Especially in Alterac Valley where you can't always click on people easily and it's difficult to see who needs healing (normally).

Rayearth

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Re: HealBot
« Reply #14 on: Sunday, 29 Apr 2007, 11:45:15 »
I used this addon for the first time yesterday. It bugged on me once, but then it worked well! I am still figuring out a few things, but it definitely made my job easier as a Paladin. Karma coming, Heffa!